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Didnt know that.

 

108-3762-03
BLADE-RECYCLING
 

Model #: 125-1072-03
BLADE-BAGGING, 21-INCH


Posted 21 June 2016 - 02:05 PM

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Had another look at the Toro. Price is $1640 !! Nearly on par with Honda.
One bar blade, nice compact unit. The engage system looks easier to use than the Honda.
Just a bit concerned about the belt, I have a few coastal lawns so lots of sand.
Apparently lots of other contractors using toro and no major issues.
Posted 21 June 2016 - 08:55 PM

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http://powerequipmen...estic/HRR216VYU


Commercial use though?!
Posted 21 June 2016 - 08:57 PM

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I have never had a issue with the belt and most of my lawns are on sandy soil.


Posted 21 June 2016 - 09:26 PM

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I have never had a issue with the belt and most of my lawns are on sandy soil.


How long have you been using it and how many hours a week you working it?
You're talking about the 21" commercial yah

You're a rep anyway aren't you
Posted 21 June 2016 - 09:41 PM

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No I am not a rep or connected anyway with Toro. I use 4 different mowers of theirs a Zmaster 3000, ####an, and 2 of the 21" commercial hand mowers. I have just found them very good quality as I send I used to use the Honda but find the Toro better. 2 Days a week I work on a 35 acre property the other three days are taken up with domestic lawns and gardens.

 

Cheers  

 

ps I only used the toro logo because i am not computer savy enough to make my job photo's small enough for lawn club to accept.


Posted 21 June 2016 - 09:56 PM

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Had another look at the Toro. Price is $1640 !! Nearly on par with Honda.
One bar blade, nice compact unit. The engage system looks easier to use than the Honda.
Just a bit concerned about the belt, I have a few coastal lawns so lots of sand.
Apparently lots of other contractors using toro and no major issues.

http://www.mowersgal...mmercial-22298/


Posted 22 June 2016 - 11:58 AM

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From experience of owning at least a dozen of the Toro 21"commercial mowers ..... you can wear the belts with a lot of use. If you do wear a belt out it is best to replace the pulley as well as the pulleyt will be worn aas well and can wear the new belt out quicker because of slippage

 

I previously ran a business with 20 employees mowing lawns. We had a flkeet of the Toros which were being used all day long on large sites where ride-ons could not be used


Posted 22 June 2016 - 12:34 PM

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Commercial use though?!

Buy 2, still cheaper than commercial and most only buy for the honda motor. Run 1 dry grab the other one ready to go and fill both when off the job.
In theory should work ok but waiting waiting  :)


Posted 22 June 2016 - 12:38 PM

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Cannon, it would be good to hear some more about running a large mowing business like that. Im at a bit of a crossroads at the moment as in whether to stay in the game and employ more guys so I can get off the tools, or give it away completly. What is your experience with running crews and being able to keep them busy ?


Posted 22 June 2016 - 01:36 PM

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Markp ... currently I am working by myself but if I get the chance I will expand back up as soon as I can. The obvious advantage of having staff is that they are earning money for you. You can then earn more than you can working by yourself.

 

I was fortunate when I had the big crew that I had permanent work with a large retirement village company so that work was constant al year round. In actual fact I had 35 employees (the lawnmowing guys plus gardeners, plumber, electrician , handymen) . The trick is to get in with work that is constant such as commercial or industrial properties. Households are too hard to keep big crews working as the work can drop off dramatically over the winter months.

 

Currently |I work for one company where my work doesn't change all year round. I get the same income whether it is summer or winter. This talks away a lot of stress from the business.

 

So would I recommend a business expanding? .. damn YES I would. If paperwork doesn't scare you , your lifestyle can be so much better


Posted 22 June 2016 - 02:19 PM

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That makes more sense, the engines as we know go for donkey's years. The decks dont.

 

Ive never seen or heard about the lifetime deck warranty on the 217. 

Found it on a yank site but was directed to it by aussie toro/honda/victa dealer

  • Self-propelled, hydrostatic Cruise Control
  • Roto-Stop® blade stop system
  • 4-in-1 Versamow System™ with Clip Director® - mulch, bag, discharge, and leaf shred
  • MicroCut® Twin Blades
  • Worry free lifetime limited warranty NeXite® deck
NeXite® Mowing Deck

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All HRX models feature a NeXite deck, made from an extremely durable polymer material. Honda is so confident in the durability of the NeXite deck, it comes with a lifetime warranty.

Exclusive to Honda's HRX mowers, NeXite was developed to resist dents, rust and corrosion. NeXite has similar strength and impact resistance to polymer materials commonly found in football helmets and car bumpers, where it's critical to have a strong, yet lightweight material.

NeXite is amazingly strong. In fact, while we don't recommend you try this at home, our engineers like to demonstrate these decks' durability by driving over them with a Honda Pilot.

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Our NeXite decks offer both a superior material and a superior design. The shape of the deck is extremely important to the mower's performance. Honda engineered the deck on our HRX mowers to ensure it will provide optimal performance in a variety of conditions.

  • Better vacuum lift and volume to keep grass circulating longer
  • Precision clearance between the deck and the blades to improve circulation
  • Unique design diverts clippings back into the blades to reduce clipping size further

Strong, attractive, and incredibly durable, the HRX series' NeXite deck is the ideal mower deck.


Posted 25 June 2016 - 12:09 PM

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Interesting Drew, I wonder if Honda Australia honors this and what the exceptions are.


Posted 25 June 2016 - 01:05 PM

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http://cdn.powerequi...-pwl50623-u.pdf


Posted 25 June 2016 - 01:20 PM

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Funny enough, I actually backed the ute (admittedly - my little Suzuki Carry) over my HRX when it rolled out the back of the ute. (I forgot to shut the tailgate and it rolled out when the ute's wheels dipped down the kerb - reversing out a driveway)

The hanging tailgate jammed on the top of engine cowl and the rear wheels of the ute lifted far enough to break traction.

 

The plastic engine cowl bent in and "popped" in. Had to remove the cowl and pop it back out with a hammer.

Tore the rubber tires on both back wheels (split tread away from sides) but still usable.

 Deck was untouched.

 

Same mower is still going strong (has had rear wheels replaced since). The HRU put into service at the same time is about to be retired due to the deck being worn out and holes appearing in the side skirt.

Clear to me.


Posted 25 June 2016 - 08:28 PM

"Can't" is a dirty 4 letter word.
If someone says "Can't" , take the "T" off the end and brew in boiling water.
Sip on your 'T, relax, and take a look at what you've got left to work with.


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#56

Now this makes Honda look good again..They are so confident in their machines..

3 year commercial warranty I think..


Posted 25 June 2016 - 08:28 PM

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http://powerequipmen...nt_Brochure.pdf

 

2 Year domestic according to brochure

 

In the states Warranty is 3 months except for HRC is 24 motor and 12 the rest according to the brochure a couple of posts up 


Posted 26 June 2016 - 02:07 PM

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Now this makes Honda look good again..They are so confident in their machines..

3 year commercial warranty I think..

3 month commercial warranty i believe for the HRX. Put it in your name and not a business name and get the domestic warranty-sorted.

 

The HRX is an arguably better machine than the more expensive "commercial" mowers. By offering less warranty we save on the price.

 

I believe the last true commercial mower Honda sold here was $3k? 


Posted 26 June 2016 - 03:20 PM

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I believe the last true commercial mower Honda sold here was $3k? 

http://powerequipmen...odels/hrc216hxa

 

Was one of these i think at about $2.5K when i inquired about 7-8 years ago.

 

$1249 US is about the price here for a  Aussie 216.


Posted 26 June 2016 - 03:41 PM

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http://powerequipmen...odels/hrc216hxa

 

Was one of these i think at about $2.5K when i inquired about 7-8 years ago.

 

$1249 US is about the price here for a  Aussie 216.

 

I remember enquiring about the same time for the same mower - $2700 if I remember correctly for a mower identical to a HRU216 except it had a steel deck and bumper bar - but, oh yeah  -  it was a "commercial mower".

Didn't have a "gullible" tat on my forehead, so passed on the deal.


Posted 26 June 2016 - 10:02 PM

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If someone says "Can't" , take the "T" off the end and brew in boiling water.
Sip on your 'T, relax, and take a look at what you've got left to work with.






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