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Hi All

Ive been still on the hunt for another SP mower and considering it was raining today and I'm nursing what feels like a broken thumb i thought out a good time to go into the city for a lookey loo.

After checking out the 800AL masport and tube contractor SP I saw the toro out of the corner of my eye and i thought maybe it deserved a look.

It seemed pretty impressive built well and had a pretty mighty donk with the full blown FJ180. And the blde sat nice and low in the chassis. Much lower than the HRX217.

Obviously the sameold story with the small chute etc. The old Pro cut will be getting used to pick up the slack.

Anyone had much experience with these units? They look the goods and at $1500 they seem pretty good value.

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Posted 29 June 2017 - 01:03 PM

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which dealer were you at ? Mate I'm in Newcastle if you want some advice ? I would say most guys in the bay are using 216 hondas


Posted 29 June 2017 - 01:57 PM

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which dealer were you at ? Mate I'm in Newcastle if you want some advice ? I would say most guys in the bay are using 216 hondas


Mate i went to newcastle mowers/chainsaws and warners bay as well.

Thats what ive seen most guys mowing with ill agree there pretty solid but im still not the biggest fan of them from past experience. Mind you it still could be woth a thought.
Posted 29 June 2017 - 02:06 PM

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Did you look at the Honda216M2, 

 

The Honda216M2 has a 4 blade system not the bar like the HRX217,  4 high lift blades will always throw better than 2

 

The Honda216M2 is heavier than the old HRU216D's because  the M2 Deck is thicker and the blade break. I think the alloy is better quality because the M2 doesn't seem to wear a quickly as the old D's  do.

 

A few Basic changes and Honda216M2 catch wet and mulch like beast.

 

Also the parts are everywhere online and super cheap.  basicly same part as the HRU216D" but they do have a different handle, deck and plus the blade break,  a set of 4 wheels $60, Blades and bolts $4 each, air filters $6.5 each, gearbox $220 to your door.

 

I have one M2 4-5 years old, only done one gearbox after 3 years of abuse.    i have plasted  JB WELD to stop deck wearing in one spot that emerged after 3 years service and that has worked a treat.  Im expecting the deck to out last the motor now, I have had it screaming at 3600rpm for the last 3 years.


Posted 29 June 2017 - 02:51 PM

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Hi Macka

I must say Thats a pretty solid break down.

Yeah thats the one ive checked out/used a few times.
Definately a solid unit ive used one of my clients ones a few times and it is certainly a bloody good machine. But i still have the same reservations ive had about them for a while. Clogging and always found them a bit lethargic.

Mind you i havent used one with modded revs. I probaby dont want to write them off totally.

Ive always liked considering every option i can.
Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:04 PM

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3speed sp, bit heavy though @ 60kg, parts arnt a problem, look them up on the net and then shop around, single bar blade, wouldnt doubt someone has made one a 4 blade disc though, could always cut the blade and make it swingback too, like CGAHS did with his ZTR
http://lawnclub.com....back#entry15495


Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:14 PM

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Definately that could be done pretty easily. Just had a chat to the local engineering bloke about making that set up for my ZTR as well.

Did feel a little heavy but felt pretty balanced. One thing i do like is that parts are easy to get.
Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:17 PM

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Definately that could be done pretty easily. Just had a chat to the local engineering bloke about making that set up for my ZTR as well.

Did feel a little heavy but felt pretty balanced. One thing i do like is that parts are easy to get.

I would like it better if it had a side discharge after using the Victa Mulchmaster.


Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:21 PM

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Speaking of MM

 

http://www.mowersgal....au/lawnmowers/


Posted 29 June 2017 - 03:24 PM

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There definately an unreal machine the 19" commercial victa. Pity the SP is a single speed
Posted 29 June 2017 - 04:14 PM

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Fixable with a piece of wire. :)  And yet the Mulchmaster is a gearbox, cant recall how many speeds.


Posted 29 June 2017 - 04:59 PM

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stuffed if l know why victa don't bring back a new 21" turfmaster


Posted 29 June 2017 - 08:27 PM

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hmmm maybe they do....http://www.bacchusma...-turfmaster-530

 

http://register.saig...56.SMK100.4.pdf


Posted 29 June 2017 - 08:37 PM

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There definately an unreal machine the 19" commercial victa. Pity the SP is a single speed

I have both the Honda and Victa commercial, grant the Victa is only 19" as apposed to the Honda being 21", but I prefer to use the Victa for the better jobs, I find the weight of the Honda on damp lawn tends to leave wheel spin marks when you engage the drive, the single speed of the Victa is not a problem, I don't have a choice of what gear to put it in (no problem).

That being said, the Honda is the go to when I have a customer who insists on their lawn being scalped.


Posted 29 June 2017 - 09:30 PM

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I have both the Honda and Victa commercial, grant the Victa is only 19" as apposed to the Honda being 21", but I prefer to use the Victa for the better jobs, I find the weight of the Honda on damp lawn tends to leave wheel spin marks when you engage the drive, the single speed of the Victa is not a problem, I don't have a choice of what gear to put it in (no problem).

That being said, the Honda is the go to when I have a customer who insists on their lawn being scalped.

 

I run a set of bald wheels on the drive in the wet season, it still spins lots but doesn't dig and leave dirt lines


Posted 29 June 2017 - 11:30 PM

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hmmm maybe they do....http://www.bacchusma...-turfmaster-530

http://register.saig...56.SMK100.4.pdf

Im pretty certain that victa is the same as the bushranger/steelfort 530. Havent seen one in the flesh yet.

http://poweruplawnca...ropelled-mower/
Posted 30 June 2017 - 06:27 AM

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I run a set of bald wheels on the drive in the wet season, it still spins lots but doesn't dig and leave dirt lines

Thanks for the advice Macka, the Honda is new so now I know I will not turf the wheels out when they go bald, I will keep them as my winter set.

This site has great advice

Thank you


Posted 30 June 2017 - 09:57 AM

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Im pretty certain that victa is the same as the bushranger/steelfort 530. Havent seen one in the flesh yet.

http://poweruplawnca...ropelled-mower/

yep, looks like it - great mowers with a decent chute, pics of my ol' girl which is my only catcher mower, have to be over 10 years old

 

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Posted 30 June 2017 - 10:28 AM

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yep, looks like it - great mowers with a decent chute, pics of my ol' girl which is my only catcher mower, have to be over 10 years old
 
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Cant say ive heard a bad word about them at all. Only difference is the new ones run the Briggs 850 engine.
Posted 30 June 2017 - 10:55 AM

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First comparison i,ve seen using HRX, Toro and Ego

 


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