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http://www.startupda...-mowing-demand/

Quotes by google maps, 20% cut. These are guys are dreaming.
Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:11 PM

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LOL, yes I saw this too yesterday in my feed. Ridiculous that every lawn would be the same as it is in the sat photo. 


Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:38 PM

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LOL, yes I saw this too yesterday in my feed. Ridiculous that every lawn would be the same as it is in the sat photo.


If they even had half a clue they would using hi res recent maps by nearmap not low res pics that are years old on google maps. Even then all it gives you is size not the dozen other factors involved in quoting. I reckon these clowns have never mowed a lawn in their life.
Posted 12 April 2018 - 06:48 PM

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If they even had half a clue they would using hi res recent maps by nearmap not low res pics that are years old on google maps. Even then all it gives you is size not the dozen other factors involved in quoting. I reckon these clowns have never mowed a lawn in their life.

My thoughts exactly. I was the thinking while reading it......these guys are about to lose a whole lot of money. They have invested a lot in it but it doesn't take in the realities.


Posted 12 April 2018 - 07:03 PM

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a lot of beer Bobs will fall for it.....here's another Oz one http://www.joemow.com.au/  come in spinner


Posted 12 April 2018 - 07:14 PM

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a lot of beer Bobs will fall for it.....here's another Oz one http://www.joemow.com.au/  come in spinner

Yep, it will be a like an Airtasker with a bit more info. Some customers will suffer, and some 'operators'.


Posted 12 April 2018 - 07:19 PM

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http://www.startupda...-mowing-demand/

Quotes by google maps, 20% cut. These are guys are dreaming.

Surely people will realise that, if this mob use properly set up lawnmowing contractors, they're going to be paying at least 20% more for the job than if they just delayed gratification for long enough to get a few quotes from Gumtree

 

But then again maybe not - the number of texts that I get saying in the first sentence or two "How much do you charge" just infuriates me - I want to reach through the phone and break their texting fingers - so maybe some Gen whatever kids will be happy with someone who says sight unseen, "It'll cost you $76 for a lawn# (see terms and conditions below)" - swipe left or right.


Posted 12 April 2018 - 07:43 PM

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Surely people will realise that, if this mob use properly set up lawnmowing contractors, they're going to be paying at least 20% more for the job than if they just delayed gratification for long enough to get a few quotes from Gumtree

 

But then again maybe not - the number of texts that I get saying in the first sentence or two "How much do you charge" just infuriates me - I want to reach through the phone and break their texting fingers - so maybe some Gen whatever kids will be happy with someone who says sight unseen, "It'll cost you $76 for a lawn# (see terms and conditions below)" - swipe left or right.

 

Of concern is the concept that one should be able to get ones lawn's mowed on the day. I had a gumtree inquiry today, received at midday wanting to make a 'reservation' for lawn mowing a yard cleaned up today, oh and send over a quote detailing what you charge. I'm sure Ismail wasn't able to install solar panels on the same day. 


Posted 12 April 2018 - 08:49 PM

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a lot of beer Bobs will fall for it.....here's another Oz one http://www.joemow.com.au/  come in spinner

That site is a joke, they say having a scheduled mow is "a scam".   And $66/hour set fee, the contractor only gets $45/hr out of that. Clueless.


Posted 13 April 2018 - 07:57 AM

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That site is a joke, they say having a scheduled mow is "a scam".   And $66/hour set fee, the contractor only gets $45/hr out of that. Clueless.

good for Joe though..............lol


Posted 13 April 2018 - 08:43 AM

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I'm a bit worried that operators can just accept one off jobs to be done that day.

 

Fair enough some of us may be able to get the odd unplanned job done on occasion but it should not be the norm.

 

Are operators not concentrating enough on regular cuts?


Posted 13 April 2018 - 02:53 PM

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I bet they didn't speak to one contracter about their bright idea before going in boots and all.. because anyone who does this for a living would have told them they are dreaming..
Posted 13 April 2018 - 09:44 PM

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Devils advocate here.

There are a number of these around, Quickmow and Green Socks in Brisbane at least.
They have their place and I dont see them as a threat to the average lawnie out there.
They set a reasonable benchmark minimum (66), and frankly weed out the annoying one off calls during the busy times.
Upside for contractors are when your starting up and have lots of spare capacity, why not go and do a few jobs on the side. Good way to learn your trade whilst getting paid, and gives you a good idea of the type of clients you want (or dont want).

I certainly don't see them as a threat.
Posted 14 April 2018 - 12:31 AM

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20% ?  (as towmater would say) "that"s funny right there"

 

It also appears you don't get paid directly instead it comes from the company that runs the scheme . Nup unless the money is held in a trusted independent account so nobody gets their filthy mits on it until job done i'd steer clear of it


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Posted 14 April 2018 - 07:02 AM

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Hi Guys,
 
This thread has only recently come to my attention and will do my best to address the points/concerns put forward in the posts

 

 

http://www.startupda...-mowing-demand/

Quotes by google maps, 20% cut. These are guys are dreaming.

Plucka thanks for the comment - we use aerial imagery in the Australian cities we will operate in. These images are six times higher res than google maps and are updated every 12 weeks. The visuals/area selection is only 1 factor in our pricing algorithm. While the app looks beautifully simply in its design, there is quite a lot of architecture behind the app that has been years in development. On top of this there are marketing and advertising costs as well. We provide confirmed jobs directly to contractors with attractive fees – you don’t have to bid for these jobs, nor do you have to spend any of your own marketing and advertising dollars to secure them.
 

 

LOL, yes I saw this too yesterday in my feed. Ridiculous that every lawn would be the same as it is in the sat photo. 

 

Hi colsy, our aerial imagery is updated every 12 weeks and is six times more accurate with higher resolutions than google maps. Furthermore, if you get to the job and believe it will take longer to do the job than the money it was quoted, you can propose a new fee, which the client must accept before you begin to mow. We believe this will ensure you get paid the fair price for mowing the lawn.

 

--a lot of beer Bobs will fall for it.....here's another Oz one http://www.joemow.com.au/  come in spinner
That site is a joke, they say having a scheduled mow is "a scam".   And $66/hour set fee, the contractor only gets $45/hr out of that. Clueless.

 

Plucka - Airmow has never said ‘having a scheduled mow is a scam’ – this must be another company, because you can schedule mowing on our app as well as have on-demand. Also, at Airmow we don’t subscribe to an hourly rate for mowing a lawn – we know the very best contractors can be quite efficient when it comes to mowing – that’s why we pay according to the size of the lawn – this benefits the very best contractors who are good at their work.

 

 

I bet they didn't speak to one contracter about their bright idea before going in boots and all.. because anyone who does this for a living would have told them they are dreaming..

 

Ply313, I cant speak for other companies however at Airmow we have worked with many contractors across Australia to develop a fair pricing model. We don’t profess to be the cheapest lawn mowing service in Australia – nor are we the most expensive ; we have consulted many lawn mowing contractors to ensure we pay the going rate – we believe this is important in order to attract the very best contractors in Australia (if you want a quality job done, you have to pay accordingly). We believe the benefits to consumers who use the on demand system far outweighs the hassles associated with going for a budget lawn mowing service.

 

 

Devils advocate here.

There are a number of these around, Quickmow and Green Socks in Brisbane at least.
They have their place and I dont see them as a threat to the average lawnie out there.
They set a reasonable benchmark minimum (66), and frankly weed out the annoying one off calls during the busy times.
Upside for contractors are when your starting up and have lots of spare capacity, why not go and do a few jobs on the side. Good way to learn your trade whilst getting paid, and gives you a good idea of the type of clients you want (or dont want).

I certainly don't see them as a threat.

 

Trevc, thanks for your comment – our Airmow app aims to innovate the industry by giving current contractors an excellent tool that can be used alongside their current booking model. We are not aiming to undercut their prices like some other online services. Our prices are fixed, automatically calculated according to the size of the lawn (and other factors) and these rates have been calculated in consultation with your peers, i.e. other lawn mowing contractors. We believe there is enough business to go around – especially during the summer months when customers find it harder to book a contractor because their schedules are full. Our app allows for a same day service, which is a true innovation that we believe consumers will love.
 
We vet all contractors who join our platform and any poor performers are kicked off. Plus contractors who give the best service will be given priority ranking thanks to our algorithm that preferences the people with the best customer satisfaction ranking. That’s why the best lawn mowing contractors will be rewarded on Airmow.
 
We encourage these contractors to register as partners to so that we can help place more jobs in their schedule (when they are not so busy).

 

 

20% ?  (as towmater would say) "that"s funny right there"

 

It also appears you don't get paid directly instead it comes from the company that runs the scheme . Nup unless the money is held in a trusted independent account so nobody gets their filthy mits on it until job done i'd steer clear of it

 

Scorpnz, thanks for the comment. Yes we charge 20% , however consider the following – we provide insurance cover - no franchise fees – it’s free to join, no time wasting call outs to quote (this means you become more productive and can earn more money - no chasing of invoices – we pay you swiftly, and ease of scheduling and rescheduling. Everything is done within the app
 
Customer payments are held in escrow (http://assemblypayments.com.au) and once the job is completed, 80% is automatically paid into the contractor’s nominated bank account.
 
I encourage contractors on lawnclub.com.au to register as a partner here www.airmow.com/contractors
 
if you would like to get in touch, send me a DM and I promise to get back to you asap.

 

 

 


Posted 17 August 2018 - 07:59 PM

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so we can see both ends

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Posted 17 August 2018 - 10:12 PM

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Hi Guys,
 
This thread has only recently come to my attention and will do my best to address the points/concerns put forward in the posts

 

 

Plucka thanks for the comment - we use aerial imagery in the Australian cities we will operate in. These images are six times higher res than google maps and are updated every 12 weeks. 
 

 

Aerial image is not going to show you how long or overgrown the lawn is, especially if it's up to 3 months old.  The difference in quote between a recently mowed lawn and one that is overgrown can be up to double or more.  Also it's not going to clearly show all the other little things that make up a quote- amount of edging, obstacles, etc that are all factors when quoting.  

 

 

 

at Airmow we have worked with many contractors across Australia to develop a fair pricing model. 

 

Is it one pricing model for the whole country?  Different locations can demand different prices,  A wealthy inner city suburb is going to be able to charge more than say a small regional town.  Do you take this into account or have you just come with a one price fits all?

 

 

 

 especially during the summer months when customers find it harder to book a contractor because their schedules are full. Our app allows for a same day service, which is a true innovation that we believe consumers will love.
 
 

Yes the summer months means full schedules, this being the case how do expect contractors to offer a same day service?

 

 

 

Scorpnz, thanks for the comment. Yes we charge 20% ,
 

It is 20% of the initial job only or if the job turns into a regular will you be wanting 20% of all future mows as well?   


Posted 18 August 2018 - 09:05 AM

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I'm just looking forward to the day when I get a 404 error browsing to their site - the model is just so flawed - the algorithm is going to have to build in 20% uplift and an unknown uplift for the average degree of difficulty - so clients are going to pay above the going rate and/or they're going to churn through contractors tired of attending end of lease cleanups for a regular rate

 

If we could just get everyone under 50 off their damn smartphones and back reading the local newspaper or yellow pages we'd be fine - I'm going to hitch up the horse to my slashing rig now  :)


Posted 18 August 2018 - 09:38 AM

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so we can see both ends

client view

https://www.airmow.com

i cant even open it when I get to that link, says to download some google play thing that wont open and sends me to a Play store where I cant find google play.


Posted 18 August 2018 - 12:31 PM

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i cant even open it when I get to that link, says to download some google play thing that wont open and sends me to a Play store where I cant find google play.

google play should already be on your android phone it's how you download apps it should be under the name "play store" & looks like a play button that faces to the right.You should have an option to search apps on the phone desktop (call it what you want it's where all your apps are). Other option go to settings & under Apps see if google play services is installed as well as google play store


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