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AndoTheMando
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Hey there crew ,

As spring gets closer its getting time to spray for bindies and weeds

  Do you guys make your mix as per the instructions , or do you make it stronger ?

I'm using a dish washing liquid in the mix ...Do any of you also use a de-foamer ?

I was thinking of using carpet cleaning de-foamer (britax)....but not sure if this would be bad for the grass..

 

And when do you guys spray? 

 

I'm thinking of spraying customers in August ..

 

Cheers, Greg


Posted 15 July 2018 - 02:08 PM

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I do my own as required, but customers are starting to book in from now on, problem over here is dodging the rain.

 

I add a bit more for good measure plus biodegradable dish washing detergent and blue die.


Posted 15 July 2018 - 03:35 PM

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Mixing Bin-Die
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start spraying now; l wouldn't go more than 10% over the recommended rate; you only want a few drops of detergent.....spray in the morning as early as possible


Posted 15 July 2018 - 03:41 PM

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I do my own as required, but customers are starting to book in from now on, problem over here is dodging the rain.

 

I add a bit more for good measure plus biodegradable dish washing detergent and blue die.

I like the idea of the blue dye...  where do you get that from ?

 

start spraying now; l wouldn't go more than 10% over the recommended rate; you only want a few drops of detergent.....spray in the morning as early as possible

Thanks , good advice !


Posted 15 July 2018 - 05:39 PM

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you can usually get the dye tablets from the coop or where you buy your poisons.
I use detergent or complain oil as a wetting agent for clover, as the spray just beads up and can blow off with wind making the kill not so good.
Posted 15 July 2018 - 06:44 PM

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Canola oil not complain
Posted 15 July 2018 - 06:45 PM

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May I ask what weed killer are you using?


Posted 15 July 2018 - 08:24 PM

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Ignore my ignorance in the above query....I didnt read the heading...aaarg   Duh!


Posted 15 July 2018 - 08:26 PM

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how long does it take to get results ?  

I sprayed a customers lawn about a month ago...  still not the kill rate I was hoping for.!!

I'm guessing things will be better when the growing season is here...


Posted 03 August 2018 - 09:38 PM

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Ando, you will have had a good kill rate after 3~4~5 weeks BUT all the new ones popped up during that time!

 

Bin-Die etc. requires a follow up treatment to get the new ones and large stubborn ones.

 

Yes (like most leaf entry herbicides) it is more effective in growing season.

 

If you have a good look close to the ground you should see the rotting dead ones from the first treatment.


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I'll put my scientist hat on for those that like to know more…

 

Bin-Die http://www.amgrow.co...ie-concentrate/

is just one of many trade names for a mixture of

 

bromoxynil https://en.wikipedia...wiki/Bromoxynil

and

MCPA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCPA

 

supplied premixed with both ingredients at 1:1 each (usually 200g/L : 200g/L) in a carrier solvent

 

it is nothing special, which is why anyone can pick it of the shelf at the hardware store or if you use a bit of it, other much cheaper brands at your local farm supplies place


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Don't put it in those PVC tube weed stick dab brushes, the carrier solvent softens and eventually melts the PVC!


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Thanks Grae....   Good info mate

Cheers


Posted 05 August 2018 - 05:40 AM

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Don't put it in those PVC tube weed stick dab brushes, the carrier solvent softens and eventually melts the PVC!


Yep I bought 20 lt Kamba m it was in steel drum , it rotted the bottom out of it in 12 months .now the put it in plastic must be special stuff cause it’s been ok for two years now.
Posted 05 August 2018 - 07:02 AM

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^

Just to keep on topic and clarify…

Kamba M http://m.nufarm.com/...51802160511.pdf [and the same product with other trade names]

 

have MCPA & Dicamba at 4.25:1 (340g/L : 80g/L) as the active ingredients

and are an unrelated herbicide to Bin-Die [and other trade names].

 

Dicamba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicamba

will damage/kill buffalo & kikuyu grasses but is considered safe for narrow leaf grasses… couch etc if the label directions are followed.

 

POST EDIT:

Kamba M can be used for controlling broadleaf/flat weed outbreaks & kikuyu incursions into couch lawns  but it is not buffalo/kikuyu lawn friendly.


Edited by Grae, 05 August 2018 - 05:26 PM.

Posted 05 August 2018 - 01:21 PM

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Totally fine to spray Kamba on kikuyu but not buffalo .
Posted 05 August 2018 - 07:18 PM

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Totally fine to spray Kamba on kikuyu but not buffalo .

Tread carefully Mattie!

 

Kamba usually refers to single product Dicamba and is not the same as Kamba M

 

Dicamba/Kamba/Kamba M is off topic

 

and you are probably correct but

Please refer to the thread ####le

which refers to

bromoxynil:MCPA


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in what situation would I use Kamba and not Bin-die ?


Posted 05 August 2018 - 09:17 PM

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in what situation would I use Kamba and not Bin-die ?

 

You are referring to trade names of totally different products

 

Kamba - dicamba (3,6-dichloro-2-methoxybenzoic acid)

 

Bin-Die - bromoxynil (3,5-dibromo-4-hydroxybenzonitrile) : MCPA (2-methyl-4-chlorophenoxyacetic acid)

 

Kamba MMCPA (2-methyl-4-chlorophenoxyacetic acid) : dicamba (3,6-dichloro-2-methoxybenzoic acid)

 

Golf course, farm crops but

 

there is a big ongoing debate about transmigration, soil retention, effects in mammals…


Posted 05 August 2018 - 10:07 PM

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ok...I more confused than what I was in the first place...lol

 Why would I use a product like Kamba ?


Posted 05 August 2018 - 10:25 PM




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